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	<title>Comments on: The Millennial Quotient: How 21-35 Year Olds Are Changing The Wine World</title>
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		<title>By: Shea</title>
		<link>http://www.justgrapeswine.com/2010/01/the-millennial-quotient-how-21-35-year-olds-are-changing-the-wine-world/comment-page-1/#comment-648</link>
		<dc:creator>Shea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joon,

I&#039;m glad you enjoyed the post. I agree with your thoughts. I do not think wine scores are irrelevant, just limited. I do find more information useful. The anti-score cartel can sometimes forget that demanding a score-free world is a form of information control too.

Cheers,

Shea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joon,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed the post. I agree with your thoughts. I do not think wine scores are irrelevant, just limited. I do find more information useful. The anti-score cartel can sometimes forget that demanding a score-free world is a form of information control too.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Shea</p>
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		<title>By: Joon S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joon S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shea,

This is a very thoughtful and interesting article.  I think we Millenials benefit from having an ever-expanding group of peers with whom to compare notes, share costs, and drink wine.  Not only are more wine stores opening that have an egalitarian, low-stress approach towards sales and education, there are a number of online resources (such as your blog!) that people can use to point them towards a great bottle.  The traditional wine press a la Robert Parker still plays an important part, however: I&#039;m of the impression that somewhere in the penumbras of online media, traditional print, and face-to-face conversation with wine stewards and friends are excellent, excellent bottles of wine.

Is it shameful to admit I still find scores valuable?  I won&#039;t bother listing the limitations of wine scores, as we&#039;ve both noted these limitations on our blogs in the past, but I feel that the more information there is the better.  The danger is when someone starts to rely solely on one source.  This can lead to a narrowed scope of selection and, beyond that, can lead to the person missing out on so much of the fun of wine.

Discovery--QPR--food pairing--community--mystery--celebration--wine as produce--passion (and maybe even obsession).  These are the ideas I associate with wine, and they&#039;ve led me down a helluva enjoyable path.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shea,</p>
<p>This is a very thoughtful and interesting article.  I think we Millenials benefit from having an ever-expanding group of peers with whom to compare notes, share costs, and drink wine.  Not only are more wine stores opening that have an egalitarian, low-stress approach towards sales and education, there are a number of online resources (such as your blog!) that people can use to point them towards a great bottle.  The traditional wine press a la Robert Parker still plays an important part, however: I&#8217;m of the impression that somewhere in the penumbras of online media, traditional print, and face-to-face conversation with wine stewards and friends are excellent, excellent bottles of wine.</p>
<p>Is it shameful to admit I still find scores valuable?  I won&#8217;t bother listing the limitations of wine scores, as we&#8217;ve both noted these limitations on our blogs in the past, but I feel that the more information there is the better.  The danger is when someone starts to rely solely on one source.  This can lead to a narrowed scope of selection and, beyond that, can lead to the person missing out on so much of the fun of wine.</p>
<p>Discovery&#8211;QPR&#8211;food pairing&#8211;community&#8211;mystery&#8211;celebration&#8211;wine as produce&#8211;passion (and maybe even obsession).  These are the ideas I associate with wine, and they&#8217;ve led me down a helluva enjoyable path.</p>
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		<title>By: Shea</title>
		<link>http://www.justgrapeswine.com/2010/01/the-millennial-quotient-how-21-35-year-olds-are-changing-the-wine-world/comment-page-1/#comment-639</link>
		<dc:creator>Shea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weston,

Good point about the limit to the price. That is certainly true, as we have seen with downward pressure on cult wine prices. Most Millennials aren&#039;t buying into cult wines the way their parents did. 

Cheers,

Shea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weston,</p>
<p>Good point about the limit to the price. That is certainly true, as we have seen with downward pressure on cult wine prices. Most Millennials aren&#8217;t buying into cult wines the way their parents did. </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Shea</p>
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		<title>By: Weston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 05:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on #1, we care about the process, I mean we can get the info off the internet so easily that we want the details on wines, I like good stats like a hockey card,  I always like it when I find a wine is 100% New Oak and it isn&#039;t over oaked! Then again good quality is good quality

On spending money and like we saw in the 90&#039;s early 00s People were buying Cult wines getting on the mailing list buying to collect or as status, I mean us our generation we don&#039;t have 500$ on a bottle [well I don&#039;t] I want quality and will pay a little more but there is a limit.

Commercial WIne Scores, I like how you didn&#039;t talk down the scoring of wine [like some people think no one should be scored] but you know what we need that to build our reference point [ I do it for myself and post on CT so people know how I feel about a wine, so either A. they get a good deal or B. don&#039;t get &#039;ripped off&#039; like me]

Great Post

Weston~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on #1, we care about the process, I mean we can get the info off the internet so easily that we want the details on wines, I like good stats like a hockey card,  I always like it when I find a wine is 100% New Oak and it isn&#8217;t over oaked! Then again good quality is good quality</p>
<p>On spending money and like we saw in the 90&#8242;s early 00s People were buying Cult wines getting on the mailing list buying to collect or as status, I mean us our generation we don&#8217;t have 500$ on a bottle [well I don't] I want quality and will pay a little more but there is a limit.</p>
<p>Commercial WIne Scores, I like how you didn&#8217;t talk down the scoring of wine [like some people think no one should be scored] but you know what we need that to build our reference point [ I do it for myself and post on CT so people know how I feel about a wine, so either A. they get a good deal or B. don't get 'ripped off' like me]</p>
<p>Great Post</p>
<p>Weston~</p>
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		<title>By: Shea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Although on more thought I do also think that this could describe a certain psychographic, but that if that is the case, most individuals within that psychographic would probably fall within the segment of the Millennial demographic I am talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Although on more thought I do also think that this could describe a certain psychographic, but that if that is the case, most individuals within that psychographic would probably fall within the segment of the Millennial demographic I am talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Shea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Well I think that the overlap with members of another demographic does not mean that these factors are not a good description of the demographic I am talking about. I doubt that any demographic statistics are necessarily limited to that demographic, only that they are a useful description of what trends tend to make the demographic I&#039;m talking about tick. 

In my experience, the 50+ boomer generation does not generally hold the views that you hold if you meet these criteria 10/10. Boomers were the basis for supporting score-based wine consumption, the status-oriented napa wine palaces, etc. Overall I would be shocked if most boomers identified with the characteristics I listed.

Josh,

No problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Well I think that the overlap with members of another demographic does not mean that these factors are not a good description of the demographic I am talking about. I doubt that any demographic statistics are necessarily limited to that demographic, only that they are a useful description of what trends tend to make the demographic I&#8217;m talking about tick. </p>
<p>In my experience, the 50+ boomer generation does not generally hold the views that you hold if you meet these criteria 10/10. Boomers were the basis for supporting score-based wine consumption, the status-oriented napa wine palaces, etc. Overall I would be shocked if most boomers identified with the characteristics I listed.</p>
<p>Josh,</p>
<p>No problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Opinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Shea,

Looks like there was a misunderstanding from my part. I was not coming from the perspective of a GenY&#039;er/Millenial who identified themselves as a wine appreciator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Shea,</p>
<p>Looks like there was a misunderstanding from my part. I was not coming from the perspective of a GenY&#8217;er/Millenial who identified themselves as a wine appreciator.</p>
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		<title>By: John Schouten</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Schouten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shea. I&#039;m a 50+ writer/researcher i Portland, and you profiled me ten for ten.  I don&#039;t think I generally fall into other millennial profiles, so I have to wonder if the segment is demographic. By your admission it&#039;s one segment within your generation. My guess is it spans multiple generations and touches a psychographic (God I&#039;m beginning to hate these marketing terms) that also values sustainability, community, artistic and other kinds of discovery.  Your thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shea. I&#8217;m a 50+ writer/researcher i Portland, and you profiled me ten for ten.  I don&#8217;t think I generally fall into other millennial profiles, so I have to wonder if the segment is demographic. By your admission it&#8217;s one segment within your generation. My guess is it spans multiple generations and touches a psychographic (God I&#8217;m beginning to hate these marketing terms) that also values sustainability, community, artistic and other kinds of discovery.  Your thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Shea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, could I ask for more details on what you disagree with? I would note that I was talking here specifically about a segment of Millennials who already identify themselves as wine appreciators. I do believe that &#039;wine newbies&#039; or those with little interest in wine are another segment altogether and accordingly demand completely different marketing. Then again, they aren&#039;t the kind of consumers that tend to make up a small winery&#039;s core business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, could I ask for more details on what you disagree with? I would note that I was talking here specifically about a segment of Millennials who already identify themselves as wine appreciators. I do believe that &#8216;wine newbies&#8217; or those with little interest in wine are another segment altogether and accordingly demand completely different marketing. Then again, they aren&#8217;t the kind of consumers that tend to make up a small winery&#8217;s core business.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Opinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 01:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree with a lot of your points, but I think you hit Number 5 on the spot. From personal experience wine is about conversation and community. While I personally know nothing and do not have an interest in wine, I have attended wine tastings and similar events as it is a good way to get with friends and even network. I believe the wineries that kill it will get away from the traditional paradigm of sophistication and craft and focus their product on making it fun, conversational, and accessible. 

Nice post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with a lot of your points, but I think you hit Number 5 on the spot. From personal experience wine is about conversation and community. While I personally know nothing and do not have an interest in wine, I have attended wine tastings and similar events as it is a good way to get with friends and even network. I believe the wineries that kill it will get away from the traditional paradigm of sophistication and craft and focus their product on making it fun, conversational, and accessible. </p>
<p>Nice post!</p>
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